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"The prime ministers of Australia and Canada joined their conservative voices in Ottawa on Monday to stress the need for economic growth over policies that address the climate crisis.
"I’m happy to call you an exemplar of center-right leadership," Australia's Tony Abbott said of Canada's Stephen Harper. "Much for us to learn, much for me to learn from the work you’ve done," he said.
Abbott and Harper downplayed the threats of climate change, and said that they would not take any measures to address it that would "hurt the economy."
Abbott said climate change is "not the only or even the most important problem that the world faces."
"It's not that we don't seek to deal with climate change," said Harper. "But we seek to deal with it in a way that will protect and enhance our ability to create jobs and growth, not destroy jobs and growth in our countries."
The two also voiced their shared criticism of a carbon tax. Abbott said he and Harper were "like-minded" in their opposition to such a tax, while Harper praised Abbott's "encourag[ing] our counterparts in the major economies and beyond to boost economic growth, to lower taxes when possible and to eliminate harmful ones, most notably the job-killing carbon tax."
Abbott said that any action to address climate change should not "clobber the economy."
And then there is this in "Arctic Sea Ice Loss Prompts Biggest Change to Maps 'Since Breakup of USSR":
"Cartographers working on the latest edition of the National Geographic Atlas of the World say that Arctic sea ice loss is the greatest visible change compared with previous editions of the map outside of the "breakup of the U.S.S.R."
According to National Geographic, in the 10th edition of the Atlas, which will be released on September 30, the depiction of multiyear ice—or ice that has survived for at least two summers—is now a significantly smaller area than on previous maps."
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"The prime ministers of Australia and Canada joined their conservative voices in Ottawa on Monday to stress the need for economic growth over policies that address the climate crisis.
"I’m happy to call you an exemplar of center-right leadership," Australia's Tony Abbott said of Canada's Stephen Harper. "Much for us to learn, much for me to learn from the work you’ve done," he said.
Abbott and Harper downplayed the threats of climate change, and said that they would not take any measures to address it that would "hurt the economy."
Abbott said climate change is "not the only or even the most important problem that the world faces."
"It's not that we don't seek to deal with climate change," said Harper. "But we seek to deal with it in a way that will protect and enhance our ability to create jobs and growth, not destroy jobs and growth in our countries."
The two also voiced their shared criticism of a carbon tax. Abbott said he and Harper were "like-minded" in their opposition to such a tax, while Harper praised Abbott's "encourag[ing] our counterparts in the major economies and beyond to boost economic growth, to lower taxes when possible and to eliminate harmful ones, most notably the job-killing carbon tax."
Abbott said that any action to address climate change should not "clobber the economy."
And then there is this in "Arctic Sea Ice Loss Prompts Biggest Change to Maps 'Since Breakup of USSR":
"Cartographers working on the latest edition of the National Geographic Atlas of the World say that Arctic sea ice loss is the greatest visible change compared with previous editions of the map outside of the "breakup of the U.S.S.R."
According to National Geographic, in the 10th edition of the Atlas, which will be released on September 30, the depiction of multiyear ice—or ice that has survived for at least two summers—is now a significantly smaller area than on previous maps."
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